4456 -> 4456-4457: add almazny #76

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PDF attached.

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\section{Features}
\begin{itemize}
\item{4-channel VCO/PLL}
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"4-channel Wide-band PLL/VCO-based microwave frequency synthesiser" like on our ordering site is better than just "VCO/PLL"

"4-channel Wide-band PLL/VCO-based microwave frequency synthesiser" like on our ordering site is better than just "VCO/PLL"
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\item{4-channel VCO/PLL}
\item{Output frequency ranges from 53 MHz to \textgreater 4 GHz for 4456 Mirny only}
\item{Up to 13.6 GHz with 4457 mezzanine Almazny}
\item{Higher frequency resolution than Urukul}
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use "4410/4412 DDS Urukul" instead of just "Urukul", since most of our datasheet has the part number prefix

use "4410/4412 DDS Urukul" instead of just "Urukul", since most of our datasheet has the part number prefix
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\item{Output frequency ranges from 53 MHz to \textgreater 4 GHz for 4456 Mirny only}
\item{Up to 13.6 GHz with 4457 mezzanine Almazny}
\item{Higher frequency resolution than Urukul}
\item{Lower jitter and phase noise}
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Lower jitter and phase noise "than 4410/4412 DDS Urukul" (I think this is copied from the wiki)

Lower jitter and phase noise "than 4410/4412 DDS Urukul" (I think this is copied from the [wiki](https://github.com/sinara-hw/mirny/wiki))
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\item{Up to 13.6 GHz with 4457 mezzanine Almazny}
\item{Higher frequency resolution than Urukul}
\item{Lower jitter and phase noise}
\item{Large frequency changes take several milliseconds}
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Perhaps this should be moved to "Electrical Specifications" section as "lock time". Last time I checked, the lock time for ADF5355 and ADF5356 are 3.5ms and 1.7ms respectively

Perhaps this should be moved to "Electrical Specifications" section as "lock time". Last time I checked, the lock time for ADF5355 and ADF5356 are 3.5ms and 1.7ms respectively
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mwojcik reviewed 2025-01-27 11:25:01 +08:00
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\section{General Description}
The 4456 Synthesizer Mirny card is a 4hp EEM module; the 4457 HF Synthesizer Mirny + Almazny card, consisting of 4456 Mirny plus the 4-channel Almazny HF mezzanine, is a 8hp EEM module. Both Synthesizer cards add microwave generation capabilities to carrier cards such as 1124 Kasli and 1125 Kasli-SoC.
Both cards provide 4 channels of PLL frequency synthesis. 4456 Synthesizer Mirny supports output frequencies from 53 MHz to \textgreater 4GHz. As 4457 HF Synthesizer with Almazny mezzanine this range is expanded up to 13.6 GHz.
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12GHz for Almazny as per hardware specs. 13.8 is theoretical max for ADF5356 but the whole RF path would have to support it, and it doesn't.

12GHz for Almazny as per [hardware specs](https://github.com/sinara-hw/Almazny/). 13.8 is theoretical max for ADF5356 but the whole RF path would have to support it, and it doesn't.
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hmmm, should we also mention mirny max frequency is 6GHz? (12GHz/2) but the loop filter for ADF5356 mirny said it only supports up to 4.4GHz
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hmmm, should we also mention mirny max frequency is 6GHz? (12GHz/2) but the loop filter for ADF5356 mirny said it only supports up to 4.4GHz ![image](/attachments/0db4f791-7e40-434e-9b66-4b2a89507d35)
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4.4GHz is the safe config w/ the loop filter, but with Almazny you can go higher

also max max on Mirny output (regardless of the rest of the path) is 6.8

4.4GHz is the safe config w/ the loop filter, but with Almazny you can go higher also max max on Mirny output (regardless of the rest of the path) is 6.8
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morgan reviewed 2025-02-04 10:55:15 +08:00
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\textbf{Unit} & \textbf{Conditions} \\
\hline
Lock time & & 1.7 & & ms & 4456 Mirny channels \\
& & 3.5 & & ms & 4457 Almazny channels \\
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the mirny & almazny are using the same ADF535X chips, so their lock time should be the same i.e. 1.7 ms when using ADF5356

the mirny & almazny are using the same ADF535X chips, so their lock time should be the same i.e. 1.7 ms when using ADF5356
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to be slightly more precise, Almazny is taking the output B (2x) of the ADF535X, there's no extra/duplicate chip on the mezzanine

to be slightly more precise, Almazny is taking the output B (2x) of the ADF535X, there's no extra/duplicate chip on the mezzanine
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